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Spacegates 10-11-2008 09:14 PM
NYC-what is legal for me?
 
If I posses a rifle/shotgun license (hypothetical at this point) what type of rifle is considered legal?

I'm a total newbie at this, so bear with me. I found this list of "unacceptable" firearms. Does it leave anything out that I can acquire? I'm looking for home protection purposes. I think I read somewhere that rifles must have atleast a 16" barrel and shotguns must have a 18" barrel within the city. Any options that are reasonable?

For City of New York: Title 38 of the Rules of the City of New York, � 17-01. Assault Weapons Designated. (a) Pursuant to Subparagraph 7 of Paragraph a of Subdivision 16 of � 10-301 of the New York City Administrative Code, the following makes and models of weapons are determined to be particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes and are determined to be within the statutory definition of assault weapon as set forth in � 10‑301(16) of the New York City Administrative Code: (1) Models Calico M-900 carbine, Calico M-100 carbine manufactured by American Industries, (2) Models Lightning 25-22, AP-74 manufactured by AMT, (3) Model AR-180 manufactured by Armalite, (4) Model .223 SAC manufactured by Austrian Automatic Arms, (5) Models M-1-SA, 1927-A1-SA manufactured by Auto Ordinance, (6) Model Light 50 82-AL manufactured by Barrett Firearms, (7) Models AR70, BM 59 manufactured by Beretta, (8) Model Assault Rifle manufactured by Bushmaster Firearms, (9) Model SR-88 manufactured by Charter Firearms Industries, (10) Models AR-15 manufactured by Colt, (11) Models MAX-1, MAX-2, K1A1, K2, USAS-12 shotgun manufactured by Daewoo Industries, (12) Models C90, C100, C450 manufactured by DMAX Industries, (13) Model MK-IV carbine manufactured by ENCOM, (14) Models FN-FAL, FN-LAR, FN-FNC manufactured by Fabrique Nationale, (15) Model MAS 223 manufactured by FAMAS, (16) Models AT-9 carbine, AT-22 carbine manufactured by Feather Industries, (17) Models XC-450 AUTO OCARBINE, XC-220, XC-900 manufactured by Federal Engineering Corporation, (18) Models SPAS-12, LAW-12 pump auto shotguns manufactured by Franchi, (19) Model GC HIGH TECH carbine manufactured by Goncz Company, (20) Models HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, PSG-1, G3-SA manufactured by Heckler & Koch, (21) Models UZI-carbine, MINI-UZI carbine, GALIL-ARM, GALIL-AR, GALIL-SAR, GALIL-SNIPER manufactured by Israeli Military Industries, (22) Model PM-30 PARATROOPER manufactured by Iver Johnson, (23) Models AP-74, AP-84, AP-80, AP-85, SPECTRE AUTO carbine manufactured by Mitchell Arms, (24) Models of the Kalashnikov-type semiautomatic, including those manufactured by Norinco (China) and Hungarian Arms, (25) Models NDM-86 SNIPER RIFLE manufactured by Norinco, (26) Model M-14S manufactured by Polytech Industries, (27) Model MINI-14/5F manufactured by Ruger, (28) Models 57-AMT, PE-57, SG550SP, SG551SP manufactured by SIGArms, (29) Model L1A1A manufactured by Small Arms Factory, Australia, (30) Models BM-59, SAR-48, SAR-58, SAR-3, M-1A manufactured by Springfield Armory, (31) Model MK-6 manufactured by Sterling, (32) Model AUG-SA manufactured by Steyer Daimler-Pusch, (33) Models M-76-SA, M-78-SA manufactured by Valmet Corporation, and (34) Model NIGHTHAWK manufactured by Weaver Arms Corporation. Please look in the file library for more information on NYC gun laws.

I've resolved to stay in NYC for the near term. I know it could be a death trap, but I'm not in a position to be running for the hills.

SilverCity 10-11-2008 09:26 PM
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Perhaps someone living in NYC can speak up...but it looks like semi-autoloading rifles and shotguns are not legal. So anything not semi-autoloading: bolt-action, lever action, single-shot, pump-action rifles and shotguns would be okay.

Pump shotgun would be a good choice for a "buy-me-first" weapon, IMO. Remington 870s 12 and 20 gauge are readily available and inexpensive. Ideally a 21 inch Vent Rib barrel with screw-in chokes is quite versatile. It can shoot every thing from birdshot to buckshot and slugs for an effective weapon with a range out to 50 to 75 yards or so.

Hivemindgammahydra7 10-11-2008 09:45 PM
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It looks like this is legal in your AO, and I highly recommend it!

Remington 870 12 gauge pump-action shotgun, known 'round cheer as the TRW:

Tyranny

Response

Weapon

fl57caveman 10-11-2008 09:53 PM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacegates (Post 1352206)
If I posses a rifle/shotgun license (hypothetical at this point) what type of rifle is considered legal?

I'm a total newbie at this, so bear with me. I found this list of "unacceptable" firearms. Does it leave anything out that I can acquire? I'm looking for home protection purposes. I think I read somewhere that rifles must have atleast a 16" barrel and shotguns must have a 18" barrel within the city. Any options that are reasonable?

For City of New York: Title 38 of the Rules of the City of New York, � 17-01. Assault Weapons Designated. (a) Pursuant to Subparagraph 7 of Paragraph a of Subdivision 16 of � 10-301 of the New York City Administrative Code, the following makes and models of weapons are determined to be particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes and are determined to be within the statutory definition of assault weapon as set forth in � 10‑301(16) of the New York City Administrative Code: (1) Models Calico M-900 carbine, Calico M-100 carbine manufactured by American Industries, (2) Models Lightning 25-22, AP-74 manufactured by AMT, (3) Model AR-180 manufactured by Armalite, (4) Model .223 SAC manufactured by Austrian Automatic Arms, (5) Models M-1-SA, 1927-A1-SA manufactured by Auto Ordinance, (6) Model Light 50 82-AL manufactured by Barrett Firearms, (7) Models AR70, BM 59 manufactured by Beretta, (8) Model Assault Rifle manufactured by Bushmaster Firearms, (9) Model SR-88 manufactured by Charter Firearms Industries, (10) Models AR-15 manufactured by Colt, (11) Models MAX-1, MAX-2, K1A1, K2, USAS-12 shotgun manufactured by Daewoo Industries, (12) Models C90, C100, C450 manufactured by DMAX Industries, (13) Model MK-IV carbine manufactured by ENCOM, (14) Models FN-FAL, FN-LAR, FN-FNC manufactured by Fabrique Nationale, (15) Model MAS 223 manufactured by FAMAS, (16) Models AT-9 carbine, AT-22 carbine manufactured by Feather Industries, (17) Models XC-450 AUTO OCARBINE, XC-220, XC-900 manufactured by Federal Engineering Corporation, (18) Models SPAS-12, LAW-12 pump auto shotguns manufactured by Franchi, (19) Model GC HIGH TECH carbine manufactured by Goncz Company, (20) Models HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, PSG-1, G3-SA manufactured by Heckler & Koch, (21) Models UZI-carbine, MINI-UZI carbine, GALIL-ARM, GALIL-AR, GALIL-SAR, GALIL-SNIPER manufactured by Israeli Military Industries, (22) Model PM-30 PARATROOPER manufactured by Iver Johnson, (23) Models AP-74, AP-84, AP-80, AP-85, SPECTRE AUTO carbine manufactured by Mitchell Arms, (24) Models of the Kalashnikov-type semiautomatic, including those manufactured by Norinco (China) and Hungarian Arms, (25) Models NDM-86 SNIPER RIFLE manufactured by Norinco, (26) Model M-14S manufactured by Polytech Industries, (27) Model MINI-14/5F manufactured by Ruger, (28) Models 57-AMT, PE-57, SG550SP, SG551SP manufactured by SIGArms, (29) Model L1A1A manufactured by Small Arms Factory, Australia, (30) Models BM-59, SAR-48, SAR-58, SAR-3, M-1A manufactured by Springfield Armory, (31) Model MK-6 manufactured by Sterling, (32) Model AUG-SA manufactured by Steyer Daimler-Pusch, (33) Models M-76-SA, M-78-SA manufactured by Valmet Corporation, and (34) Model NIGHTHAWK manufactured by Weaver Arms Corporation. Please look in the file library for more information on NYC gun laws.

I've resolved to stay in NYC for the near term. I know it could be a death trap, but I'm not in a position to be running for the hills.
12.ga winchester defender shotgun , it shoots both 2&3/4 and 3" mag, with pistol grip &extra shoulder buttstock with scope & laser sight. holds 8 2.75 and 7 3" mags

handgun:steyr gb 9mm pistol, holds 18. this pistol was made to be able to shoot with cold weather gloves on, polygonal rifling, fixed barrell, gas operated, aircraft steel frame with crinkle finish

Silvestor 10-11-2008 11:13 PM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
M1 Garand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand

foolsgold 10-11-2008 11:20 PM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
I don't know the rules for NYC but I live in NYS and went to a Walmart in PA.

When buying shotgun shells the guy asked for my license and told me if I lived in NYC I could not buy them.

I cannot give you a good place to ask your question. Maybe visit a precinct or call 311:sarc:

Looks like you can find the poop here...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pe...ormation.shtml

You need to obtain a permit for a shotgun if you live in NYC's five boroughs. Holy $hit they make it friggin difficult.

Bogie 10-11-2008 11:30 PM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
Well to start everything is illegal till you get the NYC Rifle/Shotgun permit from NYPD takes about 6-8 months. Then just about any semi-auto is banned within the city.

Spacegates 10-11-2008 11:54 PM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie (Post 1352415)
Well to start everything is illegal till you get the NYC Rifle/Shotgun permit from NYPD takes about 6-8 months. Then just about any semi-auto is banned within the city.
Does it really take that long?!:36_1_28:

Wish me luck, folks...

Bogie 10-12-2008 12:10 AM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
The last time I heard the time frame was about a year ago might be longer now.

NYPD Permit info

Drumblebum 10-12-2008 12:25 AM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1352396)
I don't know the rules for NYC but I live in NYS and went to a Walmart in PA.

When buying shotgun shells the guy asked for my license and told me if I lived in NYC I could not buy them.

I cannot give you a good place to ask your question. Maybe visit a precinct or call 311:sarc:

Looks like you can find the poop here...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pe...ormation.shtml

You need to obtain a permit for a shotgun if you live in NYC's five boroughs. Holy $hit they make it friggin difficult.
And I hear people doggin' on California CONSTANTLY about this $hit!!

NYC makes Cali look like, well, somewhere that isn't Cali!!~

NYC is fkd!!

mkinla 10-12-2008 11:39 AM
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You might want to start here.

http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rkba-36.html

Twisted Avatar 10-12-2008 12:29 PM
Re: NYC-what is legal for me?
 
These people can help you navigate the horrible NYC gun laws.


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The filing fee for a 3 year Rifle/Shotgun License is a one time
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tyusclan 10-13-2008 02:26 PM
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Man, every time I read about some of the things you fellas have to go through just to own a gun, it makes me glad to still live in the free world.


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